Matt Cutts and Google's paid link policy - Page 3

solidghost · #21 (**permalink**) 07-21-2007, 04:56 AM

And how will their algo know whether a site is a directory or not?

MGS · #22 (**permalink**) 07-21-2007, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by solidghost

And how will their algo know whether a site is a directory or not?

I don't work for Google solidghost so its just a guess that it would be pretty easy for the Google boffins who tend to know what they are on about to work out the structure of a directory as in keyword categories, perhaps thier structures, perhaps the add a link, the list could go on.

-MGS-

Popof · #23 (**permalink**) 09-16-2007, 02:13 AM

Google loves and needs directories. Directories help Google decide to what category a website belongs, what are its real keywords, etc. Cutts said explicitly that it is OK for directories to charge a review fee.

I think that "featured links" may, in some cases, be targeted; although in most cases they are OK, since they are relevant.

What is certainly targeted are sitewide irrelevant links. These are not only useless to Google; they actually tend induce Google in error.

What is also certainly targeted is duplicate content. Your directory is likely made of listings which have been written by submitters - webmasters who copy and paste the same title and description in thousands of other directories. You should try to implement duplicate content filters, or manually rewrite all descriptions to avoid such a duplicate content penalty.

All that from a directory user (not owner)

adnan · #24 (**permalink**) 09-26-2007, 08:47 AM

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I know many who visit the other forums will have discussed the merits of Google expert Matt Cutt's and his view on paid linking within directories. I also noted people within the directory threads at some forums saying that they are getting around this paid linking by saying, oh I dont charge for links but for reviews and are then dull enough to add winks to their post.

How long do you think it will be before even 'reviews' will be viewed as questionable?

-MGS-

Well directory listings if done right IMO are not considered as paid links.

You go to Google's Webmaster guidelines and they tell you right there after your site is done, submit your site to dmoz, yahoo directory and other industry specialized directories......

On the contrary, if a directory owner tries to use his directory in a way that all it does is try to manipulate search engines, then IMO I guess that could be a problem for him.

rainchild · #25 (**permalink**) 09-26-2007, 09:12 AM

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Google loves and needs directories. Directories help Google decide to what category a website belongs, what are its real keywords, etc. Cutts said explicitly that it is OK for directories to charge a review fee.

They made it quite clear who they dont like and why and it has nothing to do with directories. I dont think the future market will produce as much fat but everyone knows that leaner and meaner is a lot more healthy.

floppy · #26 (**permalink**) 09-26-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TC

Personally MGS....I have read the Mat Cutts comments as wellas all the fear mongering and doom and gloom everyone seems to be so worried about. My take is this...

While I do value PR for certain things....I absolutely DO NOT let PR dictate what sites I visit, frequesnt or anything else for that matter. And, I absolutely will not let Google dictate how I run any of my sites. If Google wants to punish my site by taking their glorified PR..so be it...Piss on Google. Even though I used it 99.5% of the time fr my own searches...there is always Yahoo. I like Yahoo but have just not forced myself to use it like I should. If I have to..I will boycott Google completely.

Just like those whom think they are the King of Directory Scripts and can manipulate others to their liking and way of thinking....I will treat them and Google the same. THere is always alternatives. When the masses realize this and switch..then the "Kings" will come knocking on our doors to return.

tom

I think Google has become a super power and they are abusing it. In todays's world the people who have the largest marketing budget always reach a larger crowd and are able to manipulate the market. Those are the facts.

For Google to offer a ppc program that can allow you to rank #1 for any search and then penalize people for buying links is just hypocritical. For most keywords I can spend $2 and generate traffic all day. I personally think they are pissed to be losing adwords revenue. haha.

Grrr..., a little off subject and I should leave it at that.

calum · #27 (**permalink**) 09-29-2007, 07:25 AM

This is one of the reasons that the new directory that I am setting up is not going to have any form of paid links.

It is all free links and I will get money from Google AdSense.

adnan · #28 (**permalink**) 09-29-2007, 05:28 PM

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They made it quite clear who they dont like and why and it has nothing to do with directories. I dont think the future market will produce as much fat but everyone knows that leaner and meaner is a lot more healthy.

I agree here.

Hopefully other search engines will come out or convey their policies as well.

MGS · #29 (**permalink**) 10-02-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by calum

This is one of the reasons that the new directory that I am setting up is not going to have any form of paid links.

It is all free links and I will get money from Google AdSense.

You won't be the first and won't be the last and if your in the right niche then there is no reason you couldn't make a good earning even from google madsense., good luck.

-MGS-

CReed · #30 (**permalink**) 10-02-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Popof

Google loves and needs directories. Directories help Google decide to what category a website belongs, what are its real keywords, etc.

I think Google does just fine with deciding the topic/subject of a web page and what the real keywords are without having to consult a directory.