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Old 09-08-2007, 09:55 AM
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Default More and More Directories For Sale lately...

Anyone else seeing this trend?

Are directories going the way of MFA, Proxy, and other site?

Is the recent Google shakeup causing the sudden urge to dump directories?

Questions one has to ask themself. I also see some of these more mainstream, well organized directories getting dumped. I can't believe the price tags I am seeing on these sites either. Frickin incredible prices and some if not most of these are damned sure not worth even a 1/10th of what is being asked.

Check these out:

Quality Well established Directory For sales (2005)

Minimum Bid: $100,000 BIN: $250, 000

Strong PR7 established authority site with a 100,000's backlinks
Minimum Bid: $50,000 BIN: $250,000

Genuine Paid Web Directory - PR 5 - 37k Alexa - Completely Unqie
Current Bid: $20,000 BIN: $35,000

Lots of other directories there for sale to with lower $$$ and $$$$ price tages but most look to be junk link farms.

I see that TopSeoDir.com recently sold for around $1500. I think that was probably a reasonable offer/bid. However the others listed above are way off base IMO

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Using one of the (of in my opinion of rather dubious value) 'what's your website worth' online calculators (CyberWyre Website Value Calculator - Making A Living 100% Online), the first link seems a bit high:

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The following report outlines traffic levels received by the submitted URL, overviews sources of potential income, and proposes a resale value of the site based on these factors.

Alexa Traffic Ranking The site's Alexa Rank = 40,214

PageRank The site's Google Page Rank = 7

Backlink Report

* Yahoo: 20500
* Altavista: 32
* All the Web: 30

Average of 7,274 backlinks.


Your site is valued at: $69,560
Monthly Earning Potential

* Text Link Advertising
Your site could sell text link advertisements at a rate of approximately $75/Link/Month.

If you sell eight links, you could earn approximately $605/Month selling text links on your site.

Check here for a review of Text Link Ads, currently the best way to sell text links from your website, or click here to give them a try!


* Affiliate Marketing
Your site could earn approximately $360/Month through affiliate marketing.

Check here for a guide to starting to work with affiliate programs, including what they are, and how to insert advertisements into your own site.


* Independent Advertising
Your site could earn approximately $965/Month through independent advertising arrangements specific to your site's niche. Take a look around to see if there are any companies which could benefit from advertising on your website.

For example, if you run a website about golf in Tampa, Florida, perhaps it would be a good idea to call a few of the local courses and see if they would like to purchase advertising, or a review on your site.

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But, the second is a bargain:


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Earnings Report for second link given above
The following report outlines traffic levels received by the submitted URL, overviews sources of potential income, and proposes a resale value of the site based on these factors.

Alexa Traffic Ranking The site's Alexa Rank = 38,881

PageRank The site's Google Page Rank = 7

Backlink Report

* Yahoo: 1520000
* Altavista: 1610000
* All the Web: 1220000

Average of 1,481,734 backlinks.


Your site is valued at: $4,605,388
Monthly Earning Potential

* Text Link Advertising
Your site could sell text link advertisements at a rate of approximately $78/Link/Month.

If you sell eight links, you could earn approximately $626/Month selling text links on your site.

Check here for a review of Text Link Ads, currently the best way to sell text links from your website, or click here to give them a try!


* Affiliate Marketing
Your site could earn approximately $372/Month through affiliate marketing.

Check here for a guide to starting to work with affiliate programs, including what they are, and how to insert advertisements into your own site.


* Independent Advertising
Your site could earn approximately $126,928.01/Month through independent advertising arrangements specific to your site's niche. Take a look around to see if there are any companies which could benefit from advertising on your website.

For example, if you run a website about golf in Tampa, Florida, perhaps it would be a good idea to call a few of the local courses and see if they would like to purchase advertising, or a review on your site.

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So's the third:


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Earnings Report for third link given above
The following report outlines traffic levels received by the submitted URL, overviews sources of potential income, and proposes a resale value of the site based on these factors.

Alexa Traffic Ranking The site's Alexa Rank = 37,010

PageRank The site's Google Page Rank = 5

Backlink Report

* Yahoo: 911000
* Altavista: 26100
* All the Web: 25600

Average of 321,077 backlinks.


Your site is valued at: $1,189,152
Monthly Earning Potential

* Text Link Advertising
Your site could sell text link advertisements at a rate of approximately $58/Link/Month.

If you sell eight links, you could earn approximately $470/Month selling text links on your site.

Check here for a review of Text Link Ads, currently the best way to sell text links from your website, or click here to give them a try!


* Affiliate Marketing
Your site could earn approximately $391/Month through affiliate marketing.

Check here for a guide to starting to work with affiliate programs, including what they are, and how to insert advertisements into your own site.


* Independent Advertising
Your site could earn approximately $32,170.1/Month through independent advertising arrangements specific to your site's niche. Take a look around to see if there are any companies which could benefit from advertising on your website.

For example, if you run a website about golf in Tampa, Florida, perhaps it would be a good idea to call a few of the local courses and see if they would like to purchase advertising, or a review on your site.

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I have to admit that if I could make 30 or 120K a month in 'Independent Advertising', rather than my current 'nil', I'd probably hold onto the site. But, maybe the sellers have more lucrative ventures on which to concentrate.

On the other hand, maybe the 'what's your site worth' calculators need an update valuer attributable to 'backlinks' and PR. So. as tempted as I am to re-mortgage my home and pick up one of the above 'bargains', I think I'll adopt a 'wait and see attitude', or perhaps buy PHPLynx for $30; put it on 'bonehead.name' (only available 'bonehead' domain') and wait a few years until the site's value increases to a million or so.

Come to think of it though, the next web big moneymaker could be to build a 'what's your site worth' site and a bunch of domains and rig the site to give inflated values for those domains then sell them to the newest crop of rubes looking for 'web income while you sleep' types of opportunity.

Yeah...that's the ticket...gotta go.
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Is it even humanly possible to earn 6k per month on a site that only averages 20k uniques a month

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I think a lot of people with paid links directories are panicking at the moment and trying to unload them while there's still some confusion and before the next public PR update.
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I think a lot of people with paid links directories are panicking at the moment and trying to unload them while there's still some confusion and before the next public PR update.
That would be one of the thoughts I have too. Can't say as I blame some of them.

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I don't recommend panicking, but I do recommend unloading a few of your directories if you have too many to handle.
There are ways to build a quality directory if you're in it for the long run and sacrifice some time and put in some effort.
John Scott has said before that his editors are adding quality sites which they themselves find on their own to the v7n Directory.
He has also made this post which I pretty much agree with.
For those of you who have absolutely no idea how to make a directory quality, maybe this thread can do something for you.

Anyways ... Frogengine got hit, so time to get to work myself.
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I don't recommend panicking, but I do recommend unloading a few of your directories if you have too many to handle.
For those of you who have been scamming and spamming people and Google - and you know full well that you are one of them - I DO recommend trying to unload the directories - if you can. After the next PR update, they'll be worthless.

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There are ways to build a quality directory if you're in it for the long run and sacrifice some time and put in some effort.
Then why didn't you and your link-farm buddies do that from the outset? All of you over at DP slamming what you've called the Quick Buck Crew are a joke - those using the term are the real Quick Buck Crew - you're just trying to cloak what you do in an air of respectability. Fortunately (well, unfortunately for you), Google had no difficulty seeing through you.

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Frogengine got hit, so time to get to work myself.
Proving my points... Oh, and by the way, didn't you recently announce that Frogengine was for sale? And doesn't that fact make everything you've said here pretty much BS?
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For those of you who have been scamming and spamming people and Google - and you know full well that you are one of them - I DO recommend trying to unload the directories - if you can. After the next PR update, they'll be worthless.

First of all, every one who has submitted to any of my directories has benefitted from it. Everyone on DP is out to do business. Maybe not you, but almost everyone.

Then why didn't you and your link-farm buddies do that from the outset? All of you over at DP slamming what you've called the Quick Buck Crew are a joke - those using the term are the real Quick Buck Crew - you're just trying to cloak what you do in an air of respectability. Fortunately (well, unfortunately for you), Google had no difficulty seeing through you.

I haven't participated in the QBC witch hunt because the ones who do are guilty of doing the same thing, only difference is that they have a lot of friends on DP while those on the list don't.

Proving my points... Oh, and by the way, didn't you recently announce that Frogengine was for sale? And doesn't that fact make everything you've said here pretty much BS?

Frogengine was for sale 6 months ago, but thank to you no sale occured. no, froggy is NOT for sale now, I just got a new design and am going to stick around with it for ome time now!

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So stop being a **** and be productive without trying to make me look bad. You don't know as much about seo as me. You think you do, but you don't. Once again, my former partners tried to get to me emailing you some lies and you think you have some power over me. So get off your high horse and focus on the topic.
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First of all, every one who has submitted to any of my directories has benefitted from it. Everyone on DP is out to do business. Maybe not you, but almost everyone.
How have they benefitted exactly? I know how they expected to benefit. I know how your directory and similar directories were marketed to fule those expectations. It's about PageRank and paid links. We all know that. Yeah, I get that all of you are suddenly trying to avoid any mention of PR and talking about advertising and traffic but get serious - what traffic?

They may well have benefitted from a bit of PR boost - I'd have to hear it from them. But that's about to end if it hasn't already ended. And you know that full well too.

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Then why didn't you and your link-farm buddies do that from the outset? All of you over at DP slamming what you've called the Quick Buck Crew are a joke - those using the term are the real Quick Buck Crew - you're just trying to cloak what you do in an air of respectability. Fortunately (well, unfortunately for you), Google had no difficulty seeing through you.
I haven't participated in the QBC witch hunt because the ones who do are guilty of doing the same thing, only difference is that they have a lot of friends on DP while those on the list don't.
You didn't answer my question.

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Proving my points... Oh, and by the way, didn't you recently announce that Frogengine was for sale? And doesn't that fact make everything you've said here pretty much BS?
Frogengine was for sale 6 months ago, but thank to you no sale occured. no, froggy is NOT for sale now, I just got a new design and am going to stick around with it for ome time now!
Thanks to me? I'd say it's more thanks to Google. And the shady practices you used that Google is now targeting. I had nothing to do with it.

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So stop being a **** and be productive without trying to make me look bad. You don't know as much about seo as me.
You're right. I know a lot more about SEO than you do. You know a lot more about spamming and scamming but then that's not something I ever tried to learn.

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Once again, my former partners tried to get to me emailing you some lies and you think you have some power over me.
I don't think you want to bring that up publicly, do you? That wouldn't end well for you if you really want to push it.
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I don't think you want to bring that up publicly, do you? That wouldn't end well for you if you really want to push it.
Before I go on, why don't you go for it and get it over with so we can all get back on topic.
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